Okay, not happy here. I need to learn all sorts of things like, perspective, vanishing points, etc. and I couldn't wait to use my new colored pencils. They cost the same as my crayolas, but I think I like the crayolas better. The crayolas give a nice bright, waxy, shiny color, that I like. These don't, but these have super strong leads that don't break when you sharpen them, or press really hard. It's a trade off. My posts will begin to drop off, once the work week starts. There's no way I can draw, sketch and paint practically everyday, then. A bientot.